This is an Avengers blog (British TV show, not the superheroes). Expect anything to do with John Steed, Emma Peel, Cathy Gale, Patrick Macnee, Diana Rigg, and Honor Blackman. A bit of The New Avengers, 1960s/70s things, and just a touch of overheated Gothic literature for good measure. I pretty much cover my own interests du jour, but welcome requests for gifs, photosets, screencaps, and fanfiction. In fact, I love requests! I try to keep my commentary balanced, but I do have my (sometimes strong) opinions about characters, episodes, and relationships, and I will express them. I always welcome respectful, friendly debate. All fanfiction by celluloidbroomcloset: Creative Commons License
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.

 

451 Followers!

I just noticed I have reached 451 followers (the point at which SEDDIs combust? Something like that). Anyways, I wanted to say hello to everyone and that y’all are awesome - and I always love getting responses, comments, arguments, submissions, requests, etc.  

The Avengers - John Steed/Emma Peel "Old Money"

Hi! I was so impressed and inspired by your (and the rest of the SEDDI community’s) fanfiction that I whipped up this fanvid. :) 

So good! Thanks so much for sharing! (Suggest that you also upload it to Veoh or someplace like that, as Avengers videos often get purged from Youtube). The song fits them quite well!

violetimpudence:

A really cool thing (and I mean this sincerely) is the way people can watch the exact same film or TV show or what-have-you and yet come up with dramatically different reactions, even to what you’d think would be very fundamental questions, such as “is this boring or not?”

Comparing notes with fellow fans of “The Avengers” has been great this way. Understand, until recently I didn’t know any other fans of the show to compare notes with, so other than vehemently disagreeing with David Smith’s pages off and on, I was unaware of the spectrum of reaction.

(I don’t see any point in concealing that this woolgathering was inspired by celluloidbroomcloset's reaction to “Take Me To Your Leader.” She found it boring; to me, it stands out in a semi-dismal season by being one of the rare Tara episodes where I'm not bored. Contrast this to “Fog,” which if I remember correctly she rather likes, but which I find has a big hunk of “why on earth should I be interested in any of this” in its center. Is she wrong? No. Am I wrong? No. There’s no “wrong” here, and yet it’s fascinating how we can come up with such different responses.)

Alas, we’re plummeting toward the really grim end of the Tara era, so these differences of opinion are likely about to stop. Of the seven remaining episodes after “Fog,” “Who Was That Man I Saw You With,” “Bizarre,” and “Requiem” are all flawed but have their moments … but “Pandora,” “Thingumajig,” and “Homicide and Old Lace” are three of the absolute worst. I’ve never heard anyone yet admit to liking any of those three. “Pandora” in particular is so bad I’m worried about my ability to rewatch it. I have only ever made it halfway through. “Take-Over” is the only one where we’ll get a nice spot of controversy. I dislike it; a lot of other people are very fond of it.

Yes! That’s the fun of any media: you get a lot of different reactions, and everyone has their reasons. 

I do like both Fog and Take-Over: the first because of the stylization and otherworldiness, the second because 1) Steed, 2) villain, and 3) limited Tara. 

I can point you to people who like both Pandora and Thingumajig. I don’t understand it and never will. 

I hated Take Me to Your Leader. I hated it *so* much. Flames…on the side of my face…burning…

lotsofbrolly:

violetimpudence:

[“Stay Tuned”]

This is a very good episode. I concede that. Unfortunately, it’s lacking fun or wit - two things which are important to me in Avengers episodes. (It’s the combination of drama and wit, danger and levity, that makes the show appealing to me, which is why I continually call out episodes that have no sense of humor whatsoever.)

It has some great bits (including Roger Delgado, albeit sadly underused, and Kate O’Mara, who never could act but is always fun to watch), is well-shot for eeriness (all the scenes with the Whistling Man, for example), and Macnee does a fine job … yet I’m seldom inclined to rewatch it.

Interesting that Tara believes in Steed, but Steed does not always believe in Tara. I’ll have more to say on this when we get to “Who Was That Man I Saw You With?”

Father is an interesting character. In my mental universe, Mother is responsible for day-to-day operations, whereas Father handles problems (mental health, reliability, etc) of individual agents - sort of like a combination psychiatrist and internal affairs department. It’s a shame we didn’t get to see her again except in the horrible movie.

I agree. I enjoyed this episode a lot. It showed Steed’s character a lot more. And it was a good story.

There are bits that I like in this: Delgado, Father, and (as brolly says) the insight into Steed’s character. But it never quite gets there for me, and it feels stretched out to fit a 50 minute run time. It might actually have been better at half-an-hour.

Tara believes in Steed because she idolizes him. He doesn’t idolize her and he knows in his business that even the closest person can betray you. But look at what she does here: she participates in deceiving him because some young idiot tells her that he’ll kill Steed otherwise. Tara doesn’t come to logical conclusions and she’s not clever. Why should he trust her? In this, as in so much, she’s a plot device.

annielou1984:

cariheart:

plasticblaster:

SPOOKY ‘67

Emma would kick the shit out of Barnabas

But who is that vampire guy though?! (I honestly have no clue).

Barnabas Collins, from the Dark Shadows TV show. He’s a vampire in a soap opera, basically.

annielou1984:

cariheart:

plasticblaster:

SPOOKY ‘67

Emma would kick the shit out of Barnabas

But who is that vampire guy though?! (I honestly have no clue).

Barnabas Collins, from the Dark Shadows TV show. He’s a vampire in a soap opera, basically.

http://celluloidbroomcloset.tumblr.com/post/95839432817/ok-take-me-to-your-leader-was-not-my-favorite-i

annielou1984:

celluloidbroomcloset:

dragonsfield:

celluloidbroomcloset:

dragonsfield:

celluloidbroomcloset:

OK. Take Me To Your Leader was not my favorite. I didn’t find it interesting or unique - in fact, it was quite boring for the most part. Best bit belonged to Steed and the little girl, who really should have been a diabolical mastermind in her own right. Tara gets one nice fight, but manages to…

stunningly, after decades of feeling the very same as you, I found myself loving the episodes this year. can’t even explain it.

I like Steed - I always like Steed, and when he’s on screen alone I can ignore everything else. A few episodes are really well done. But I think everything else is just awful. I keep trying in the hopes that it will be less awful, but it just seems to get worse. 

I swear to god, a time will come and you will enjoy them-if it happened to me, it can happen to you. I used to feel like sticking dynamite under the vhs episodes I had back then.

I dunno: I’m pretty good at holding long grudges against films and TV shows for no apparent reason and I have good reason for this. 

In all fairness when I was quite young after watching the ending of TFMK, and Mrs. Peel left, I hated her for it. And it wasn’t until I saw the entire episode a few years later did I realise why. So I enjoyed Tara at the time, (first viewing) as I was young, around 10. But I them grew to hate Tara after watching all her episodes.

I will gladly reevaluate my feelings about Tara and Season 6 once I find something in need of reevaluation. I’d never refuse having my mind changed. But everything that I watch just entrenches me more. Even Patrick Macnee hated them at the time, though he has apologized since for being unfair to Thorson. I’m beginning to wonder if he was unfair. That being said, I’ve realize that there are a handful of eps (like this one) that I still haven’t watched.

http://celluloidbroomcloset.tumblr.com/post/95839432817/ok-take-me-to-your-leader-was-not-my-favorite-i

lotsofbrolly:

celluloidbroomcloset:

OK. Take Me To Your Leader was not my favorite. I didn’t find it interesting or unique - in fact, it was quite boring for the most part. Best bit belonged to Steed and the little girl, who really should have been a diabolical mastermind in her own right. Tara gets one nice fight, but manages to…

Hahahaha I knew you were going to say that ^ lmao!! It’s one of those impossibly silly and childish episodes…you either love it of hate it…

Oh God, it was dire. 

http://celluloidbroomcloset.tumblr.com/post/95839432817/ok-take-me-to-your-leader-was-not-my-favorite-i

dragonsfield:

celluloidbroomcloset:

dragonsfield:

celluloidbroomcloset:

OK. Take Me To Your Leader was not my favorite. I didn’t find it interesting or unique - in fact, it was quite boring for the most part. Best bit belonged to Steed and the little girl, who really should have been a diabolical mastermind in her own right. Tara gets one nice fight, but manages to…

stunningly, after decades of feeling the very same as you, I found myself loving the episodes this year. can’t even explain it.

I like Steed - I always like Steed, and when he’s on screen alone I can ignore everything else. A few episodes are really well done. But I think everything else is just awful. I keep trying in the hopes that it will be less awful, but it just seems to get worse. 

I swear to god, a time will come and you will enjoy them-if it happened to me, it can happen to you. I used to feel like sticking dynamite under the vhs episodes I had back then.

I dunno: I’m pretty good at holding long grudges against films and TV shows for no apparent reason and I have good reason for this. 

http://celluloidbroomcloset.tumblr.com/post/95839432817/ok-take-me-to-your-leader-was-not-my-favorite-i

dragonsfield:

celluloidbroomcloset:

OK. Take Me To Your Leader was not my favorite. I didn’t find it interesting or unique - in fact, it was quite boring for the most part. Best bit belonged to Steed and the little girl, who really should have been a diabolical mastermind in her own right. Tara gets one nice fight, but manages to…

stunningly, after decades of feeling the very same as you, I found myself loving the episodes this year. can’t even explain it.

I like Steed - I always like Steed, and when he’s on screen alone I can ignore everything else. A few episodes are really well done. But I think everything else is just awful. I keep trying in the hopes that it will be less awful, but it just seems to get worse. 

violetimpudence:

celluloidbroomcloset:

God, this episode upsets me. Macnee gives one of his best, most poignant performances, but there’s a lot of cruelty running through the script. Blowing up the Bentley seems unnecessary. 

This is one of the things I like about it - it pulls no punches, and is therefore one of the few “we’re trying as hard as we can not to have any fun here” episodes (a syndrome sadly common in both the Tara era and TNA) that actually works. Notice that “works” is not the same as “happy.” Nonetheless, this episode has undeniable impact and is a very well-drawn portrait of an obsession.
But I get ahead of myself. TNA is not until nine days from now ….

I like it because it gives Macnee a chance to own the screen. I dislike it because by this point in TNA the “Steed suffers” plot has been done almost to death. The destruction of the Bentley in particular seems like a nasty act on the part of the writers, who are slowly trying to beat away any connections to the original show.

violetimpudence:

celluloidbroomcloset:

God, this episode upsets me. Macnee gives one of his best, most poignant performances, but there’s a lot of cruelty running through the script. Blowing up the Bentley seems unnecessary. 

This is one of the things I like about it - it pulls no punches, and is therefore one of the few “we’re trying as hard as we can not to have any fun here” episodes (a syndrome sadly common in both the Tara era and TNA) that actually works. Notice that “works” is not the same as “happy.” Nonetheless, this episode has undeniable impact and is a very well-drawn portrait of an obsession.

But I get ahead of myself. TNA is not until nine days from now ….

I like it because it gives Macnee a chance to own the screen. I dislike it because by this point in TNA the “Steed suffers” plot has been done almost to death. The destruction of the Bentley in particular seems like a nasty act on the part of the writers, who are slowly trying to beat away any connections to the original show.

violetimpudence:

Still trying to decide whether, after TNA, I will wrap around and cap some Cathy Gale episodes. Even in remasters, they are murky and sometimes hard to hear, and I find many of them slow, but there are definitely jewels among the murk.

I guarantee I will have something from “The Nutshell” (the single best Gale episode in my opinion) if nothing else.

Actually I should probably do it if only because I owe those episodes a rewatch, out of fairness. There are many Gale episodes I have only watched once (as opposed to Peel or King episodes, which I have generally watched many times).

I think that the Gale eps improve with multiple viewings (unlike the Tara ones, which seem to get worse) - there’s usually something fun about even the worst ones. In any case, I’d love to read your views and what caps you choose from them.